Intuit Payroll Sucks

Intuit QuickBooks payroll is a nightmare. Don’t ever use it. The service is TERRIBLE!

If you encounter a problem processing payroll–and rest assured, you will–you will have to call its Manila connection, where you will have to endure a 20 minute wait on the phone before talking to someone who cannot assist you. And even if you reach someone in the states, you are forced to jump through hoops to try to get it resolved, if you are fortunate enough to get it resolved.

I found the service AWFUL! And you cannot file a complaint because the customer service representatives refuse to give their last names, and, besides, you have no one to complain to.

My grade for Intuit QuickBooks payroll? F-

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The SEBAC agreement is the mother of all can-kicks a sweetheart deal protected by contract for a full decade

Sometimes there’s a fine line between kicking the can down the road and gradually phasing in difficult change. Not this year, not in Connecticut. The difference is a chasm. The sweetheart deal that Governor Malloy and his fellow Democrats in the General Assembly cut with state employee unions, the so-called SEBAC agreement, is protected by contract for a full decade —leaving meaningful reforms waaay down the road. The contract is the mother of all can-kicks.

Nevertheless, after the deal was struck, Republicans didn’t give up. They included in their own budget proposal several reforms starting after the expiration of the contract. Lo and behold, the GOP’s budget passed both houses of the Democrat-controlled Assembly.

Why in the world did Democrats in the deep-blue state of Connecticut vote for a GOP budget?  Well, when the SEBAC contract came up for a vote in the Connecticut senate early last August, three fiscally conservative Democrats held out and voted yes only after receiving assurances from senate Democratic leadership that a twelve-point list of fiscal reforms would be instituted.  Then, in the recent budget go-round, the Democrats included only three of the reforms in their budget, while the Republicans incorporated ten of the twelve. So the “threesome” voted for the GOP budget, which passed the senate by 21–15.

Five Democrats in the house of representatives followed suit, and the GOP budget passed the Democrat-controlled house by 78–72. Governor Malloy has vetoed the measure, arguing, amongst other things, that enactment of the reforms constitutes a SEBAC contract violation, even though the reforms take effect only after the expiration of the SEBAC agreement. Malloy & Co. say the budget risks an employee-union lawsuit.

So what happens now? Perhaps more Democrats will defect and the Assembly will override Malloy. If the Assembly Democratic leadership wants to block an override and pass their own budget, they’d better keep the reforms and bring the threesome back into the fold (along with their house colleagues). But wait, that runs the purported risk of a union lawsuit. On the other hand, can they pass a budget without the reforms — can they bully the threesome and the house fivesome into backing down, or buy them off somehow?

Even though the reforms take effect ten years hence, their impact is worth $322 million in
savings today, according to actuarial analysis. Even though they will be realized only in years 11 through 30 of the actuarial time horizon, they impact the schedule of payments over the whole 30-year horizon, resulting in the $322 million reduction in the state’s required contribution to the pension fund over the fiscal 2018–fiscal 2019 biennium.

That’s a huge amount, especially when you consider that the savings have been inflation adjusted at the 3.5 percent inflation rate used by the state actuaries Cavanaugh McDonald. At that rate, one dollar of savings in 2028 is worth only about $0.70 today, and a dollar in the 30th year, 2047, is worth only about $0.35.

Imagine the savings if those reforms were instituted now and realized for all 30 years, with the inflation-adjusted savings over the next ten years worth between $0.70 and one full dollar.  Indeed, it would have been much better if the “threesome” had voted against the SEBAC deal in August. Not only would the savings have been much greater, but that would have avoided the anomaly of achieving savings by reducing funding of an already underfunded pension fund in the face of still mountainous obligations over the next ten years.

What are the key reforms? First, the GOP budget bill eliminates overtime spiking, i.e., calculating pensions based on overtime earned in the years immediately prior to retirement, as opposed to average overtime over a full career. Spiking allows soon-to-retire employees to log extensive overtime hours in order to inflate their pensions. Second, the GOP budget requires state employees to contribute to their own pensions at the nationwide average for public employees, presently about 7 percent of salary/wages (versus 2–4 percent under SEBAC).

Third, it eliminates cost-of-living-adjustments (COLAs) for post-2027 retirees until the pension fund reaches 80 percent (presently, Connecticut is only about 35 percent funded). Fourth, for employees with salaries near and above the Social Security “tax and benefit base” ceiling ($127,200 annual earnings), it eliminates a pension supplement that “makes up” for “lost” Social Security benefits near and above the ceiling. Finally, the GOP budget mandates that future labor contracts not have a term of more than four years.

These reforms introduce basic fairness. Overtime spiking is a notorious abuse. Two other reforms bring Connecticut employees in line with national averages. The fourth simply applies to the state’s retirement program the same needs-based philosophy that governs the federal Social Security retirement program. Indeed, even after these pension reforms, Connecticut state employees will still have far more generous pension and health-care benefits than most workers in the private sector, where pensions have all but vanished and health-care costs have skyrocketed.

If these reforms are included in the ultimate budget, we’ll see if the employee unions file a lawsuit. It would be a court fight worth having. If they are not included and the “threesome” caves and votes for the budget anyway, well, so much for political courage — indeed, voters may wonder whether “fiscally conservative” means anything at all when describing Democrats. all when describing Democrats.

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Claudia Stauber compares Bernie Sanders to a lover who cheats and leaves you but says he still loves you

Claudia Stauber provides a perfect metaphor of how she felt listening to Bernie Sanders today in Vermont, telling us how much he still fights for us against the 1% and the oligarchs.

“I felt like I used to be with the love of my life. Then he cheats. And not only does he cheat, but he moves in with the woman he cheats with. And then he tells me that he still loves me and he would do anything for me. That’s exactly how I just now felt being at that event where Bernie was talking the same stuff he said during his campaign and talking against the 1% and against the oligarchs while he is with them, while he is with the Democratic Party, which is comprised of oligarchs, while he stood and stands behind Hillary telling us how much he still fights for us.”

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The DNC is a one big capitalistic gangbang of Democrats and corporate donors and lobbyists

Jimmy Dore: Hi everybody. I’m here with Jim Earl, Dave Reinitz and Ron Placone. Hello fellas. Howdy, howdy.

So what are we talking about today. So everybody has made a big deal about the DNC election and that they chose the corporatist and now they want the progressives to unify. No, how about you pick the progressive because you guys just lost.

In fact, impact the establishment Democrats are wiped out coast to coast. And you know that, you’ve heard me say a million times, they lost sixty-nine out of a hundred state houses; they lost the Congress; they lost the Senate; they lost to the most unpopular politician in the history of the world, Donald Trump, who only had a thirty-seven percent approval rating on the day he beat the Democrat.

One of the things that Barack Obama did was he instituted a rule: no corporate lobby money. Debbie Wasserman Schultz repealed it, and the Democrats are like, hey, since we got our ass handed to us by trying to be like just like Republicans by, you know, getting in bed with Wall Street and big business and the military-industrial complex and expanding two wars into seven, you know, we kind of turned into Republicans so maybe we should turn back into Democrats and let’s say we don’t take corporate money at the DNC.

Turns out DNC members voted down corporate money ban. That’s what they did. I think that was probably worse than choosing Tom Perez.

So the donors have a stranglehold on the Democratic Party and they’re not letting go. And they don’t give a shit. Remember the establishment Democrats would rather lose to a Republican than let a progressive win. I’m not making that up.

“Democratic National Committee members on Saturday [this is last Saturday] voted down a resolution that would have reinstated former President Barack Obama’s ban on corporate political action committee donations to the party. Resolution 33, introduced by DNC Vice Chair Christine Pelosi [she introduced it?— look at that ha] would also have forbidden ‘registered, federal corporate lobbyists’ from serving as ‘DNC chair-appointed, at-large members.'”

Sounds easy enough. Hey, if you want to put a pretty face on their “hey, we are really making changes”, that seems like we could go back to what Barack Obama did: that seems pretty easy. They can’t even do that! They can’t even do that. They won’t even go back. They’re wiped out. They just lost to Donny Tiny Hands and they can’t even go back to what Barack Obama did. That’s how corrupted they are. That’s how the gears are working. It’s because they’re completely beholden to their donors. That’s who voted for Tom Perez.

“Obama, as the party’s Presidential nominee in 2008, banned contributions from political action committees, as well as from lobbyists. Former DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz quietly lifted the ban ahead of the 2016 election. Bob Mulholland, a DNC member from Chico, California, was one of the bill’s most vocal opponents and helped lead a successful effort to table the resolution for further review on Friday.”

So here’s a guy Bob Mulholland from Chico, he wants corporate lobbyists, bring the lobbyists, bring those things were supposed to be fighting, bring them in. Bring them inside the tent, make us just like the people were supposed to be opposing, and then be shocked when you lose.

“He argued that the ban would handicap Democrats at a time when they need all the resources they can muster.”

Hey guess what? The Democrats weren’t handicapped last time. And they’re wiped out. So maybe taking that corporate lobbyist money is the handicap. You ever think about that? Because it skews your whole fucking reason for being.

Hillary Clinton outspent Donny Tiny Hands 2 to 1. And she lost! Again this whole idea that the Democrats?—and we talked about it when I interviewed Thomas Frank, “Listen Liberal”?—is that the Democrats their whole reason for doing this corporate money shit, for Bill Clinton getting in bed with Wall Street, the military-industrial complex, and Big Pharma, the whole reason Chuck Schumer said screw the workers, the working-class, the white workers, we’re going to pick up Republicans in the suburb, that’s our strategy, the whole reason for doing that is you’re going to win.

The whole reason for getting in bed like the Republicans with big business and Wall Street is because you’re going to win. But you’re not winning. This fucking theory it’s been blown out of the water. Money doesn’t equal win.

The Democrats have been taking corporate money since 1992, and before, and they’re getting their ass handed to them. They lost to Donald Trump. So I can’t believe people still say this stuff. That’s crazy.

But it’s not crazy if you’re a lobbyist or you want to be a lobbyist or you work for a corporation or you want to take the corporation money or someday you want to work there or you want to work in the thinktank that takes the corporate money that wants to influence the DNC. It’s a one big capitalistic gangbang and they’re all taking part and that’s what this is about.

“Just a reminder that Republicans control all three branches of government right now?—all three branches.” That’s the guy who wants to keep taking corporate money. That’s his thing. But I just want to remind you, I just want to remind you that you’re able to take corporate money and you fucking lost. Okay? How stupid.

“‘We do not have a president the White House,’ Mulholland said. ‘I am not a member of Mother Theresa’s sisters organization; I am a member of the Democratic Party.'”
And you’re completely bought and sold by corporations, you dummy. And I can’t I can’t imagine why … oh.

Panel: I was at one of those corporate gangbangs once and everybody just wanted to fuck me up the ass.

Jimmy Dore: I’m glad we took time out for that joke.

Panel: Why is he dragging Mother Teresa into this? Yeah I was wondering with that analogy, too. Where is he going with that?

Jimmy Dore: He is trying to say like, you guys are too pure. That’s what that is. I don’t belong to a purity organization. I’m a politician trying to win. You lost! Your way of doing things lost.

Panel: He really should have thought that through. I’m not part of a group that tries to help people. I’m a Democrat. Oh, that’s branding: needs some work there.

Jimmy Dore: Well put, Ron. I’m not a purity organization that helps people. I’m a Democrat.

Panel: His words, his words.

Jimmy Dore: “New York DNC Member Stuart Appelbaum, a co-sponsor of the resolution, insisted that it was crucial for voters to believe the DNC is accountable to them, not corporate interests.”

It is crucial; they don’t think that.

“‘This resolution provides us an important opportunity to send a message to the people of this country as to our values,’ said Appelbaum, president of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union. ‘It is not something new: we operated this way for seven years!’ Appelbaum added. referring to the Obama-era ban.” It’s not.

“Resolution 33 appears to be narrower than the ban on contributions from lobbyists and PACs imposed by Obama, explicitly banning donations only corporate PACs.”

So this rule that they’re proposing isn’t even as broad as the one Barack Obama had implemented. It’s narrower than that and they still voted it down! Mmmm. Because we’d rather lose to a Republican than win with the progressive. We would rather lose to a Republican than stop taking our Wall Street money. We’d rather lose to a Republican than stop taking the big Pharma money.

That’s what this is. This isn’t about winning. It’s about keeping the corporate cash flow going. It isn’t about winning because you’re losing doing that. And they know they’re losing and they’re ok with that. They’re more okay with losing than they are with winning to a progressive.

“Ellison told Huffington Post in January that he would reinstate Obama’s ban on lobbyist donations. He subsequently walked back the promise, vowing only to make sure the measure was second and debated by the DNC’s executive committee.”

That’s what he said. We played that video out. He said we’re going to have a vote. We’re Democrats. I’m not going to make a decision. We’re going to vote about it.

So if we vote to be sellouts and be corrupted by corporate money, I’m going to go along with it. And he is.

That’s how bad the Democrats are. their big progressive, Keith Ellison, corporatist. Aaah, whatever, I’ll go along. Does that bother anybody else?

Panel: Yeah, the whole thing is super upsetting. It’s just ridiculous. It’s just like you keep saying, I mean, they aren’t Democrats. They are just Republicans with a different name.

Jimmy Dore: I agree.

Panel: But it’s so nice watching them all be besties. C’mon, that unity for all of us to learn from. I feel good.

Jimmy Dore: I do. I love it when Tom Perez and Keith Ellison go and do interviews together.

Panel: They need to get bracelets.

Jimmy Dore: “His chief opponent, former Labor Secretary Tom Perez, declined to say whether he supports the idea of such a ban.”

So there you go. You wonder what’s wrong with the Democrats?

Panel: He won’t even take a stand.

Jimmy Dore: He won’t even take a stand.

Panel: One way or the other. Just make a decision. That’s your job. Your job is to make a decision.

Jimmy Dore: Why do you think he won’t make a stand because his stand is obviously the wrong thing.

Panel: There is no transparency. That’s his answer.

Jimmy Dore: Yeah, that’s their answer, transparency. We’re going to do another story on that, about how they think they’re going to fix everything with transparency.

So this is still more of the problem. Hey Democrats, what did you learn? We learned that we need to keep taking corporate money and be just like the establishment that thing that everyone hates. That’s what we learned.

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The hit job on Keith Ellison by the Corporate Democratic National Committee

John F. O’Donnell: You know the Democratic Party is back, baby, back from the dead. They’re like Neo from the Matrix or Spock from Star Trek Three after Captain Kirk goes, “Khan”. They redeemed themselves by electing the progressive Berniecrat, Keith Ellison, as the head of the Democratic National Committee.

Donna Brazile: It is my honor now to present the gavel of the next chair of the Democratic National Committee to Mr. Tom Perez. Mr. Perez, congratulations.

John F. O’Donnell: Tom Perez? But he was the labor secretary under Obama. He was pro TPP and all in for Hillary Clinton during the campaign. He’s not a progressive. There must be some sort of mistake here.

Zaid Jilani of the Intercept: Keith Ellison started out very strong in this race. He received endorsements not only from Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren but also from Harry Reid and Chuck Schumer, from a wide variety of labor unions. I mean, in a way, he really was the unity candidate in that he had brought together Sanders backers and Clinton backers.

John F. O’Donnell: Sounds good. Democratic Party clicking on all cylinders. So what happened?

Glenn Greenwald: …As Ellison’s momentum built, the Obama White House worked to recruit Perez to run against Ellison. They succeeded…Why did the White House work to recruit someone to sink Ellison? … What’s the rationale? None has ever been provided.

John F. O’Donnell: None has ever been provided. Touche quote reveal, I’ll see your lack of an explanation and raise you this:

Clio Change of the New Republic: There is one real difference between the two: Ellison has captured the support of the left wing … It appears that the underlying reason some Democrats prefer Perez over Ellison has nothing to do with ideology, but rather his loyalty to the Obama wing. As the head of the DNC, Perez would allow that wing to retain more control….

John F. O’Donnell: So you’re telling me the establishment Democrats that I’m trying real hard to get behind here sold out the progressives again? They’re the worst! They’re like Hans Gruber from Die Hard or Nurse Ratchet from One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.

Glenn Greenwald: There’s an uglier and tawdrier aspect to this. Just over two weeks after Ellison announced, the largest single funder of both the Democratic Party and the Clinton machine–the Israeli-American billionaire Haim Saban–launched an incredibly toxic attack on Ellison, designed to signal his veto. ‘He is clearly an anti-Semite and anti-Israel individual,” pronounced Saban about the African-American Muslim congressman.’
John F. O’Donnell: Seriously? They pulled the anti-Semite card? What are they trying to say, he’s like that character from Inglorious Bastards, what was his name? Oh, Hitler! Yes, Ellison is the first Muslim American ever elected to the US Congress, which should be embraced. And by all accounts he’s moderate on Israel-Palestine. This is a total hit job. I’m starting to hate the corporate Democrats again!

Clio Change: This reluctance to cede control comes despite the fact that Democrats have lost over 1,000 state legislature seats since 2009. There is no case for Perez that cannot be made for Ellison, while Ellison is able to energize progressives in ways that Perez cannot.

John F. O’Donnell: Why corporate Democrats? Stop denying power to the progressive left. You know it’s a losing move. Your party has imploded and all you care about are your corporate donors at the expense of even winning elections let alone the well-being of the American people.

You’re like the Bad News Bears. Wait, scratch that. You’re like the remake of the Bad News Bears. No one is even buying tickets to your show. They all went home.

Your concern for the working people of this country has all been a con.

Reporting from Washington, John F. O’Donnell, Redacted Tonight.

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Bernie Sanders is not the revolutionary leader for whom progressives have been waiting

Bernie Sanders: Controlled Opposition (self.conspiracy)

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Bernie is funded by a man who goes by the name of George Soros. No conspiracy here its just hypocritical to take donations from a man who is part of the tip top 1%. And now it has come to our knowledge that he will vote for Hilary Clinton, someone he supposedly fundamentally disagrees with.

NDAA: Bernie Sanders: YES, Appropriates $80.71 billion for overseas contingency operations for fiscal year 2014 (Secs. 4102, 4202, 4302, 4402 & 4502). As well as removing due process giving the government total control over who gets due process & who doesn’t. It permits the military to detain individuals indefinitely without trial. Bernie sanders voted yes on this, not to mention the increase in defense spending?Source:

Cyber Security Act: Bernie Sanders: YES, this bill is very simple to understand, tt literally destroys net neutrality. Generally speaking, net neutrality means that an Internet service provider such as cable or phone company treats all content equally. For example, it doesn’t offer faster transmissions for Netflix videos than it does for those from Amazon Prime. Bernie sanders voted yes to passing this bill…. Had that been passed internet would have been utterly destroyed as we know it.Source:

Amdt 2372: Bernie Sanders:NO, This bill is simple to understand why it is needed. It Prohibits the EPA from spying on farmers. And it adds better regulation to school meal programs & provides better healthier food for the kids. It also provides better regulation on what chemicals are put in our food. Bernie sanders voted no on this decent bill. Source:

USA FREEDOM Act: Bernie Sanders: YES, this bill is also very simple to understand, it extends the patriot act (implemented by bush), The patriot act is a bill that expands federal law enforcement power. It erodes our freedoms by, allowing the government to watch & monitor our phone calls, emails, texts, etc. Basically eliminating the right to privacy in your own home. The fact this bill extends the patriot act is horrible & Bernie Sanders voted for it. Source:

Amdt 139: Bernie Sanders: NO, this bill again is simple to understand. This bill prevents the UNITED NATIONS from taking away our fire arms. It basically strips the UNITED NATIONS of any law enforcement in America period. Source:

Amdt 1491: Bernie Sanders: NO, again this bill is very simple to understand as well. It extends the STOCK Act to ensure that the reporting requirements set forth in the STOCK Act apply to the executive branch and independent agencies. It prevents companies from evading taxes. Source:

In 1993, Bernie Sanders voted YEA on HR 2446 – Military Construction Fiscal Year 1994 Appropriations Bill, which provided $3.63 billion for military construction.

That same year, he also voted in favor of S J Res 45 – Authorization for Use of US Armed Forces in Somalia, which authorized President Bill Clinton to use US troops in Somalia for the purpose of providing logistical support to the United Nations peacekeeping force.

In 1994, Bernie voted in favor of HR 4453 – Military Construction FY95 Appropriations bill, which provided $2.52 billion for military construction.

The following year, Bernie voted in favor of HR 3107 – Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996, which “imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran’s ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes.

In 1997, Bernie voted for HR 2159 – Foreign Operations FY98 Appropriations bill, which included: $3 billion for Israel, including $1.8 billion in military assistance and $1.2 billion in economic assistance; $2.12 billion for Egypt, including $1.3 billion in military assistance and $815 million in economic assistance; $770 million for former Soviet Republics; and $215 million for international narcotics control and law enforcement. (He also changed his mind on this now he speaks about drugs not being illegal)

He also voted for HR 4059 – Military Construction FY99 Appropriations bill, which provided $2.82 billion for general military construction.

In 1998, Bernie’s name was included as a YEA vote on HR 4655, the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998, which expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the aim of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein from power. President George W. Bush later used the Iraqi Liberation Act to provide justification for military action for the 2003 invasion.

In 1999, Bernie voted for HR 2465, which provided $4 billion for military construction, and he voted for HR 3196, which provided: $2.16 billion for military and economic assistance to Israel; $760 million for military and economic assistance to Egypt; $535 million for Eastern European and the Baltic States, including $150 million for assistance to Kosovo; $300 million for military and economic assistance to Jordan; and $285 million for international narcotics control.Voted NO on restricting UN funding for population control policies.

(Mar 2009)Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)Voted YES on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package.

(Feb 2009) Voted YES on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy.

(Sep 2008) Voted NO on protecting middle-income taxpayers from a national energy tax.

(Apr 2009) Voted NO on reducing Marriage Tax by $399B over 10 years.

(Mar 2001) Voted YES on Congressional pay raise.

(Jul 2009) Voted NO on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections.

(Sep 2006)Bernie voted in favor of HR 3107 – Iran and Libya Sanctions Act of 1996, which “imposes sanctions on persons exporting certain goods or technology that would enhance Iran’s ability to explore for, extract, refine, or transport by pipeline petroleum resources, and for other purposes.

In 1997, Bernie voted for HR 2159 – Foreign Operations FY98 Appropriations bill, which included: $3 billion for Israel, including $1.8 billion in military assistance and $1.2 billion in economic assistance; $2.12 billion for Egypt, including $1.3 billion in military assistance and $815 million in economic assistance; $770 million for former Soviet Republics; and $215 million for international narcotics control and law enforcement.

He also voted for HR 4059 – Military Construction FY99 Appropriations bill, which provided $2.82 billion for general military construction.

In 1998, Bernie’s name was included as a YEA vote on HR 4655, the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998, which expressed the sense of Congress that it should be the aim of the United States to remove Saddam Hussein from power.President George W. Bush later used the Iraqi Liberation Act to provide justification for military action for the 2003 invasion.

In 1999, Bernie voted for HR 2465, which provided $4 billion for military construction, and he voted for HR 3196, which provided: $2.16 billion for military and economic assistance to Israel; $760 million for military and economic assistance to Egypt; $535 million for Eastern European and the Baltic States, including $150 million for assistance to Kosovo; $300 million for military and economic assistance to Jordan; and $285 million for international narcotics control.Writes Ron Jacobs of Counter Punch, 3/31/2003:”For those of us with a memory longer than the average US news reporter, we can remember Bernie’s staunch support for Clinton’s 100-day bombing of Yugoslavia and Kosovo in 1999. I served as a support person for a dozen or so Vermonters who sat-in in his Burlington office a couple weeks into that war. Not only did Sanders refuse to talk with us via telephone (unlike his Vermont counterparts in the Senate-Leahy and Jeffords), he had his staff call the local police to arrest those who refused to leave until Sanders spoke with them. The following week Sanders held a town hall meeting in Montpelier, VT., where he surrounded himself with sympathetic war supporters and one university professor who opposed the war and Bernie’s support for it. During the question and answer part of the meeting, Sanders yelled at two of the audience’s most vocal opponents to his position and told them to leave if they didn’t like what he had to say.

In 2001, Bernie supported HR 1954, which extended the Iran-Libya Sanctions Act of 1996.

Following the 9/11 attacks, Bernie voted in favor of H J Res 64 – Authorization for Use of Military Force, which allowed President Bush to use the United States Armed Forces against anyone involved with 9/11 and any nation that harbors these individuals.

In 2002, Bernie voted against H J Res 114, which authorized President Bush to use military force against Iraq. However, he would continue to support bloated military defense bills that would ultimately be used to sustain the war he allegedly disagreed with.

In 2003, Bernie supported HR 5010, which provided $355.1 billion in appropriations for the Defense Department for fiscal year 2003 – an increase of $37.5 billion from 2002 – as well as: $71.6 billion for procurement of aircraft, missiles, weapons, combat vehicles and shipbuilding; $7.4 billion for ballistic missile defense; and $58.4 million for foreign aid, which includes humanitarian assistance, foreign disaster relief and de-mining programs.

He also voted in favor of HR 2800 – Foreign Operations Appropriations, FY 2004 bill, which granted $1.8 billion in military and economic assistance to Egypt and $2.2 billion for Israeli military assistance.

In 2004, Bernie supported HR 4613, which allocated $25 billion for emergency defense spending for operations in Iraq and Afghanistan, and $77.4 billion for the procurement of new weapons.

In 2005, Sanders supported HR 2863 – Defense Department FY2006 Appropriations Bill, which provided $50 billion for ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2006, Bernie voted for HR 5631, which provided $70 billion for ongoing operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In 2007, he supported HR 1585 – National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2008, which granted $187.14 billion for Iraq and Afghanistan operations.

In 2009, he voted in favor of HR 2647, which authorized $309 million for research and evaluation, procurement, or deployment of an alternative Missile Defense System in Europe, and also allowed the Secretary of Defense to increase the active-duty number for the US Army to a number greater than otherwise allowed by law up to the 2010 baseline plus 30,000 troops. During the same year, he called closing the torturous gulag at Guantanamo a “complicated issue” and ultimately rejected a proposal to shut it down.

In 2011, Bernie co-sponsored S. Res. 85, which urged the UN Security Council to take action to protect civilians in Libya from attack, including the possible imposition of a no-fly zone over Libyan territory.

In 2014, Bernie came out in favor of levying economic sanctions (an act of war) against Russia: “The entire world has got to stand up to Putin,” he said. “We’ve got to deal with sanctions.”That same year, Bernie didn’t object to having his name included – by unanimous consent – in S.498, which backed Israel’s brutal, summer-long military assault against Gaza.Most recently, he vowed to continue Obama’s murderous international drone war.

Bernie also supports funneling weapons into Iraq to fight ISIS as well as airstrikes, and he continues to spread the myth that Iran seeks to build nuclear weapons.

All of this information is publicly available and verifiable with a Google search. But hes for the people right? Bernie Sanders has a terrible voting record that tramples on the constitution and wastes billions of dollars. Sanders is proof that if you speak with a gravely, authoritative voice and tell people what they want to hear, you can gain national attention. Only once every several decades does someone come along who is so cunning, manipulative and masterful at combining nationalism, authoritarianism, propaganda and hatred into one slick campaign. Not sure what is more amazing, how brilliantly he is executing this strategy while working to appear folky or how many people are falling for it. It’s really stunning. Please Bernie is not the savior you are looking for. Read some books about high level manipulation techniques and carefully analyze the lack of substance in what he says.

Written by user rk3yb0arD – And no, just because I dislike Bernie and Hilary does not mean I support Trump in the slightest. Thank you very much.


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Our intelligence agencies have issued disclaimers stating that their reports of Russian hacking of the election lack any proof of facts

Jimmy Dore: The intelligence agencies have been releasing the reports to convince us that we should be upset at Russia because they hacked our election. First of all, who gives a shit if they did? The United States tapped Angela Merkel’s phone, and she’s our ally. We do this shit all the time. Okay? And don’t think we’re not hacking Russia all the time also so it doesn’t bother me at all.

This is what James Clapper revealed. This is what intelligence agencies do, so ok? And what people are really upset about is that, oh my God, Russia got access to John Podesta’s emails and then they ran around spreading the truth.

So they put out this big report . This is the first one they put up. It’s the joint analysis report from the NCCIC and the FBI.

Now the first thing I want you to notice is that there’s a disclaimer that comes with their intelligence report. There’s a disclaimer. You want to know what that disclaimer says? That disclaimer says, “Disclaimer: This report is provided ‘as is’ for informational purposes only. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) does not provide any warranties of any kind regarding any information contained within.”

Stef Zamorano: I don’t know. I think I want some warranties when it comes from Homeland Security.

Dore: So what the old intelligence agencies are saying, hey even this shit were saying, even I’m not not even standing by it. We’re not even standing by it. They’re not even standing by it. And every stupid jagoff journalist and democratic hack in the country is screaming about this.

And then they released another one just on January 6th called the “Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections.” The intelligence community assessment. Background to assessing Russian activities and intentions in recent US elections: the analytic process and cyber incident attribution. So that’s the one that came out on the sixth.

So let’s look into there. “Indeed, the report, like the Grizzly steppe effort, includes an unusual disclaimer disclaimer: This new one also came with the disclaimer that they put in the appendix. And the disclaimer they put in the appendix was. “Estimated Language” that “Judgments are not intended to imply that we have proof that shows something to be a fact.”

Just quit reading right there. This is the lip. So I went to a CIA guy who writes for the American Conservative, Philip Giraldi, and he was an ex-CIA guy so do I believe him? You say I’m supposed to believe the CIA now right? Well he’s a CIA guy. I’m supposed to believe him, right? Well here’s what he says: “No smoking gun on Russia hack. Language used the intelligence community’s latest report.” Suggests. Yes it does suggest.

“So the latest attempt to nail perfidious Moscow is, to my mind, yet another miss-mash of soft facts combined with plenty of opinion and maybe even a bit of good old Cold War-style politics.” That’s quite a stew.

“A lot of sometimes wild speculation and judgments based on fragmentary information taken together are not a good basis for determining foreign policy.” It’s what got us into the Iraq war, killing hundreds of thousands, if not millions, setting the Middle East on fire. It’s what got us into Libya. Got us into first Gulf War. Got us in Vietnam. Bullshit.

“A lot of sometimes wild speculation and judgments based on fragmentary information taken together are not a good basis for determining foreign policy, particularly if one is dealing with a powerful foreign state that is heavily armed with nuclear weapons and ballistic-missile delivery systems.”

So those reports that everyone’s screaming about how great they were, they are bullshit. They come with disclaimers that the people putting them out are saying, hey, we are not vouching for this. We’re not going to vouch for our own report, okay? Just so you know.

But I’m going to give it to all the knuckleheads at CNN and MSNBC and they’re going to go with it. They’re not. And the New York Times, and John Harwood, and Kurt Eichenfuck: all the morons.

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The Democrats lost the election because they became Republicans in the nineties under Bill Clinton

I’m here with the miserable liberal  Stef Zamorano, and we have to talk about this again. We have to keep talking about it because I thought that after the election that the Democrats will get their head out of their ass and start being reality-based again. And I was wrong and they’re going crazy insane.

They’re talking about Russia again, like again like it’s 1980. We used to make fun. I don’t know if you remember in 2012, the Democrats made fun of the Republicans and Mitt Romney because their foreign policy views of Russia were stuck in the eighties.

And the Democrats are immediately showing their hand at being just as craven and politically opportunistic and stupid though politically also. This doesn’t help them. So we have to keep talking about this because it seems half the Democratic Party has lost their minds. I’m talking about the people who backed Hillary in the primary. I’m talking about everybody at MSNBC. I’m talking about everybody at CNN. People have gone nuts.

So we have to talk about what happened and what really happened. So they’re still writing these articles. Politico says Obama says the Democrats lost by not showing up. We already talked about him wagging his finger at the electorate.

But here’s Shaun King from The Daily News. Now he writes a lot of great articles. He is good. I like his stuff. And he wrote this and this article is pretty a comprehensive. He says, the headline is, “Obama and the Clintons still have no earthly idea why the Democratic Party lost the Presidential election.”

And so not to beat a dead horse but it is very instructive to see how what’s wrong with the leadership at the Democratic Party. We all know the big problem is that they became Republicans in the nineties under Bill Clinton and got in bed with the people that they used to oppose, meaning Wall Street and big oil.

So he’s talking about the statements that the President has made and other leading Democrats have made. “The statements, if anything, reveals what happens when politicians are isolated from the American public for so long.” And Barack Obama has, holy shit. “While some nuggets of truth could be found there, by and large, they all severely miss the mark on how and why Hillary Clinton lost. Instead of looking internally at mistakes they made, they continue to look outward, casting blame on anybody and everybody but themselves.”

“The FBI investigation into the Clinton email mess was admittedly a bit of a public fiasco, but Hillary has openly admitted that she mismanaged the safety and security of her emails. In spite of it all, for months on end, Clinton denied violating any policies or laws when the investigation revealed that she actually violated them repeatedly. She has to own she has to own her primary role in that debacle. Secondly, this is Obama’s FBI.”

Yeah, they keep blaming Comey. Obama appointed the guy. Keep reporting Republicans. Keep reporting Republicans, you fucking idiots. How did that work out?

“Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate”?—this is where Shaun King really gets into it?—”Hillary Clinton was a terrible candidate to run against Donald Trump. Of course the Obama and Clinton families will never say this, but she was. I honestly believe that she may have been the only leading Democrat that Donald Trump could’ve beaten.” She was. Anyone else would’ve beaten Donald Trump.

Again people weren’t necessarily voting for Donald Trump. They were voting out of desperation and against the establishment.

“Next to him, she was among the least popular politicians to ever run for President.” Now that’s a fact. The second most unpopular politician in the history of Presidential politics Hillary Clinton. That’s a fact. But I bet it’s everything else. It’s Jill Stein. It’s Bernie bros. It’s the Russians. It’s Comey. It’s sexism, right? It’s sexism.

“Trump is a rich, unethical liar with major character problems. To beat him, you run the opposite of that. Clinton, true or not, was not seen as the opposite but the Democratic equivalent.” That is true.

“Secondly, the Democratic Party needed to be the party of progressive populism to beat the rise of Trump’s phony conservative populism, but they chose candidates and strategies that simply could not do this.”

They thought they would run against Jeb Bush, and they didn’t understand that they were running against a populist. And they got all populisted. Remember Trump was to the left of Hillary on banking regulations: he’s for reinstating Glass-Steagall. He was the left of them on TPP.  So he’s to the left of her on trade, to the left of her on banking, which means he’s to the left her on jobs.

“Whereas Trump tapped into the anger and frustration of his voter base, the Democratic Party failed to do the same thing on issues that had widespread grassroots support from coast to coast.” Yes, the Democrats failed to tap into the anger and frustration of their voter base on issues that had widespread grassroots support from coast-to-coast.

“The Black Lives Matter Movement never really believed Clinton cared. She all but ignored the Dakota Access Pipeline in spite of the fact that millions of people were outraged about it. While workers and unions and everyday people had joined the fight for $15 minimum wage battle, Clinton and her team waffled on it every chance they got. Documents revealed that she supported fracking.

Terry McAuliffe, who by all accounts is among the closest confidantes of the Clinton family, openly said she would flip on TPP once elected. Instead of being anti-war, she was seen as a hawk”.

Again they’re describing a Republican. She’s pro TPP; she’s a war hawk; she’s in bed with Wall Street and fossil fuel companies. What makes her a Democrat? She won’t even lead on the fight for $15. She won’t even join the fight for $15.

“In other words, while progressives were fighting against police brutality, against the Dakota Access Pipeline, against TPP, against fracking and for a $15 minimum wage, Clinton was consistently on the wrong side of each of those issues.” Yeah, ah, Russia Comey.

“Clinton campaign lost because they ran a bad campaign for the time that we actually live in. The Democratic Party put out the wrong candidate, but even with her, they could have and should’ve still won the election, but they repeatedly ignored and dismissed progressive people and causes that could’ve tipped it in her favor.” No doubt. She would not even mention DAPL, she would not even put a progressive as her Vice President. Barack Obama was nominating a practically corporate Republican to the Supreme Court at the same time he was pushing TPP. What’s the point of the Democratic Party?

“As nice as Tim Kaine is, they chose a Vice President who was safe, but did nothing to move the needle even marginally. Even now, as a Democratic establishment seems hell-bent on not choosing Keith Ellison as the leader of the DNC in spite of widespread progressive support for him. I’ve never seen anything like it.”

This is the natural progression, this is the natural endgame of the Bill Clinton Democratic Party when he decided to change the Democratic Party from a party of workers and blue-collar people to a party of Silicon Valley and Wall Street. And Democrats have to acknowledge that. And if they don’t, they ain’t going nowhere.

That’s what happened to your party. Why is it so fucked up? Why did you nominate such a colossally flawed, the biggest flawed candidate in the history of the Democratic Party? Why did you guys nominate her? Because the machine is broken inside the Democratic Party, the way everything works, was broken by Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton. They turned the Democrats into Republicans, which is why they sound like fucking lunatics now. They’re even red-baiting non-stop. For Christ’s sake, get a hold of yourselves.

“Hundreds of thousands of people have come forward to say they want Keith Ellison to lead the party, but the party stalls and stalls and stalls, and seems determined to do anything other than pick the progressive choice. If the Democratic Party is going to have any success moving forward, it must lean into progressive populism and not away from it. So far, I don’t see this happening and the Obamas and Clintons don’t seem to be taking us there.”

So way to go, Shaun King. He nails it again and again. The people who supported Hillary and the primary are still doubling down on their on purpose stupidity and ignorance. I don’t know what it was. You raised wrong, or if you’re all adult children of alcoholics, or what the fuck your problem is, you can’t even admit a basic truth. You guys are as bad as George Bush supporters, and that’s not hyperbole.

That’s the problem with why people hated the George Bush administration because they lied and gas lighted and wouldn’t admit the fucking truth everyone can see on their TV. And now the people who supported Hillary in the primary are exactly on purpose as ignorant as they are. And that’s why I want to get out of the Democratic Party. I think we need a third party but we need a charismatic leader to start it, to get it really going.

I think I’m joining the Democratic Socialist Party. They’re really booming. By the way their numbers are really climbing. And I line up with them, and we need a charismatic leader to get it done.

I’m telling you, half the Democratic Party, I don’t think, they can be saved. The people who are backing Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and who are still screaming about Russia and those people, they’re determined to make the Democrats losers. They’re just as dumb as the Republicans were.

At least the Republicans had the guts to do an autopsy. They didn’t follow it. At least they had the guts to do it. The Democrats even lack that.

See what donor money does? It infects their brains. And now they are worthless.

Those people who are now Democrats, the Josh Barros, we have to make it a party that those people are uncomfortable to be in. And if not, we got to start a third party. Who gives a fuck about the Democratic Party? Who cares? They screwed over Bernie. And now they gave us Trump.

What are you going to do? Turn around and support them again? And then they’re still turning their backs on the progressives; they are still shitting all over us. What is the fucking point of this? They’re determined to lose again and again and again because they’re clinging to bad ideas on purpose because it’s their money train.

But I know it’s easier for people who aren’t original thinkers to blame me, and blame Jill Stein, and blame Russia, instead of trying to actually blame the people who actually have the power to do something about it.

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Bernie Sanders just sold out Progressives once again but this time to Chuck Schumer

Hey guess what? I’ve said it before, I’m saying it again. We need to have activism, which is sprouting up spontaneously in response to the Trump Presidency. So the people on the Left, the corporatist Democrats, are coming together with the real progressives to oppose Donald Trump. Isn’t that nice?

What the Democratic Party needs to do is cleanse itself of those corporatists who became Republicans and are losers: guys like Chuck Schumer. Remember Chuck Schumer’s whole strategy for the general election?—Chuck Schumer is the leading Democrat in the Senate?—and he said don’t worry about blue-collar Democrats in Pennsylvania. For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in Pennsylvania, we’re going to gain two to three Republicans in the suburb. That’s what he said.

So they went after Republicans and they lost to Donnie Tiny Hands. They don’t even know why they’re Democrats anymore. How are you a Democrat if you don’t go after blue-collar voters but instead you go after Republican voters. You’re a fucking Republican. Chuck Schumer is a Republican.

Show me how he’s a Democrat. Somebody please in the comments show me how Chuck Schumer is a Democrat besides being pro-gay rights and pro-abortion because most Republicans are that now. Show me.

Guess what happened. Some people got together and they went and occupied Chuck Schumer’s office. Isn’t that fantastic? Want to see the video of it? Here it is. Look at this.

Young Democrats protested inside Senator Chuck Schumer’s office.

James Hayes, Organizer for AllofUs: “In place like Cleveland, and across northeast Ohio, there are many families who, for a variety of reasons, feel invisible to local, state and national party leadership. This is because rather than empower and listen to the concerns of working-class Americans, and the families that their party claims represent, this party [the Democratic Party] has become the party of Wall Street. We need leadership takes its cue from the American people?—not the corporate and financial establishment.”

17 protesters were arrested during the sit-in.

17 demonstrators were arrested on Monday while staging a sit-in against Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat from New York, at the incoming Senate minority leader’s office in Washington, DC, according to a new report. The arrested protesters were from a group of roughly 40 people urging Schumer to step aside and hand the party’s leadership to either Senator Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

That’s what they wanted. They wanted to hand the leadership of the Senate over to people who aren’t bought by corporations. The people didn’t just lose the goddamn election to Donald Trump. And your only idea is to get more money from the people you should be regulating. That’s Chuck Schumer.

“Our goal is to show the Democratic Party needs new leadership and they failed to protect us,” he added of All of Us 2016 group. They did. The Democratic Party failed to protect them. “We want Chuck Schumer to withdraw his name.” I’m with them.

Shahid said All of Us 2016 formed about a month before President-elect Donald Trump’s stunning White House win.

These are activists starting their own activist group and they’re going out and they’re occupying the Senate Minority Leader’s office. Fantastic. Fantastic. The group now plans on targeting Wall Street Democrats (way to go) he said, which it blames for the Republican’s win over Democratic Presidential nominee Hillary Clinton. “A lot of us are willing to go to jail,” Shahid said, adding the group would target all Democratic senators “who don’t do anything they can to filibuster Trump’s legislation that promotes his hatred or his greed.”

That’s what I said. The Democrats can filibuster. They can filibuster as much as they can.

“We are here because so many of us are terrified and scared and pissed off, said Yong Jung Cho, a participant from Queens, New York. “Donald Trump is a threat to the American people,” she added, warning Monday’s protest was a “first warning” to other Democrats. We’re coming for you

So if the Democratic Party and Bernie Sanders?—even Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren?—think you can still stay in bed with Wall Street, or some of you can still be in bed or your leadership can be in bed with Wall Street, these people are here to let you know, fuck you. Get ready to lose to Trump again. Fuck you, we’re not doing this shit anymore.

Half the country is poor, you assholes. People are crushed by debt. You got a Democratic President outsourcing jobs, still deporting two million Hispanics, the shit Trump’s dreaming of doing, right now the fucking Democrats are doing it, and these people are saying, “enough.”

And what did the Democrats do? What did the Democrats do? BAM: Senate Democrats elect Chuck Schumer to be minority leader with the help of Bernie Sanders.

And you know what they did to Bernie Sanders? He’s the head of their outreach. So now Bernie Sanders has to go out and spread Chuck Schumer’s message to get voters to come on board. He’s the head of outreach. And Bernie Sanders is ok with it.

You’re going to lose again, Bernie. You lost with Hillary, and he did it on purpose, and you knew she was going to lose, and you backed her anyway. And what Bernie Sanders should have done, god damn it, you know it and I know it, is he should have taken Jill Stein’s offer and ran with the Green Party and then Hillary Clinton would have shit in her pants instead of what she did do was be arrogant because she had every motherfucking lefty saying that they were going to support her, like morons, instead of challenging her to make her a better fucking candidate to come together with the progressives and form a real coalition government.

Instead she picked Tim Kaine and those fucking idiot lefties, “I’ll support you even more now. I’m pretending this isn’t happening. I’m supporting you more. Ha-ha. This will be great, right? If he does shitty things and we say we support her, then she’ll win, right?

No, she wins if she’s a better candidate, you fucking knuckleheads. Get ready for eight more years of Trump. The Democratic Party is dead. They keep doing this. I’m not going to work to try to turn the Senate Democrats, of which Chuck Schumer is the leader, I’m not going to lift a goddamn finger to help them.

Do you recall any time Chuck Schumer led on anything? When did Chuck Schumer ever lead for anybody except himself and his donors? Ever? He’s the one who told people don’t worry about the blue-collar voters, we’re going to pick up Republicans in the suburb. That was his strategy: to go after Republicans. Chuck Schumer. And they just made him their leader in the Senate with Bernie’s support. Bernie, you just supported Hillary Clinton and she lost to Donald Trump. Why don’t you wake up?

Grow a spine. Bernie Sanders, when are you going to risk losing your friendship with the Democrats to help your country? When are you going to risk doing that? You had a stupid secret agreement not to attack Hillary Clinton, and you stayed by it, and then when the country needed you to do something with your movement, you told them to go work for the Machine. And now you’re telling them to back Chuck Schumer.

So this is the death rattle of the Democratic Party. If you don’t see it Bernie, if you don’t see it, Elizabeth Warren, if you don’t see it Keith Ellison, this is it. I’m not going to help try to turn the Senate Blue if it’s Chuck Schumer and the people on the Left who tried to help Hillary Clinton, if they still try to help you do that, they’re losers again. The people know. They went and occupied his office.

What do you think is going to happen? This is their big wake-up call. They got their big wake-up call, and this is what they did.

I think they need to do better and really hear the wake-up call because I think a lot of people, you know, yesterday we were talking about how so many folks in the corporate media are still pointing fingers everywhere except for themselves but I think a lot of people that you know held their nose and supported Hillary Clinton that were hesitant about it now they’re seeing ok it’s not working anymore. The system is over. It’s done. Now we need all new blood. We need all new ideas. This isn’t going to cut it. This is not going to cut it.

You know, I’d be satisfied with … I’m not even looking for new ideas. I’m just looking for the idea that …. The New Deal is not a new idea. It’s an old idea. And it worked really well.
What’s Barack Obama talking about? Hey, we need to go back to the New Deal. No, he
never even mentioned it. They never mention FDR.

I don’t think there’s any time to do a New Deal because they have to do more war. They got to do more war and get more money from George Soros and Wall Street. That’s why they got Chuck Schumer: he’s a great fundraiser.

By the way, that’s how you progress in politics. You raise funds. So whoever raises the most money gets attention from the party leadership because you’re bringing the money and they equate money with victory even though Hillary Clinton just raised a billion dollars and got her ass handed to her. So that’s what that’s all about.

Chuck Schumer raises money from Wall Street and then he gives money to his other colleagues in the Senate and then they vote for him because it’s all about fucking money. It’s got nothing to do with serving the people.

What did Chuck Schumer ever do to serve the people? Look at this party. This party are dinosaurs.

Bernie Sanders, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, these people are dinosaurs.

You know Jimmy, I can’t trust Elizabeth Warren.

I don’t trust Elizabeth Warren.

She was right out there stomping for Hillary Clinton and as far as we know, where does she stand on DAPL, where does she stand on fracking, where does she stand on the TPP?

Did you see that big speech Elizabeth Warren gave about DAPL? Me neither. I didn’t see that.

Is she also going to take another tough stance? She’s going to dress down another Wells Fargo CEO, something that costs her nothing to do.

Way to go Democrats. Get ready for eight years of Trump. This is the Democrats big idea.

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Donald Trump sells out supporters by selecting executives from Goldman Sachs for key cabinet posts to regulate our economy

TODD: I`m joined now by Kellyanne Conway, top transition adviser and, of
course, Donald Trump`s campaign manager during the campaign. Kellyanne,
welcome to the set.


TODD: It`s been a while. Let me go right there to Goldman Sachs. He
railed against Goldman Sachs. Three Goldman Sachs alum, fairly prominent
positions. How is this not hypocritical?

CONWAY: He rallied against their political influence. And he doesn`t like
that and he said that they don`t have influence over him, politically. And
they will not have influence over him politically in this White House.
They need to work with him to implement the president-elect`s vision for
our economy.

TODD: What would Kellyanne Conway say if a president Hillary Clinton
appointed three Goldman Sachs guys? Would you – would you be saying, oh,
they don`t have any influence over her?

CONWAY: You know, I don`t remember myself being incredibly critical of
President-elect Obama`s cabinet positions because – or cabinet selections.
Because every president has the right, in this peaceful transfer of power
in our great democracy, Chuck, to make his own decisions.

In the case here, though, the first criterion is that the person be
qualified and capable to do the job on day one. And to do the job within
the structure that the president-elect has set forward, he`s been very
straight forward about what his vision is for each of the cabinet

TODD: You know, let me take another look. Because this is not the first
Goldman alum to serve in this very post, OK, the chief economic adviser in
the White House. It is basically a – it is almost a Goldman seat. I
don`t to be that cliche, but I think almost every president has had a
Goldman alum serve there at one point.

Is there – was there – was the trashing of Goldman just simply campaign
rhetoric and, sort of, B.S.?

CONWAY: Now, remember, he`s talking about political influence. These are
cabinet positions. These are people that who going to serve –

TODD: They`re political appointments.

CONWAY: They`re making policy. They`re helping to make policy. They`re
helping to roll back really bad policy that we`ve had.

This president wants to create 25 million jobs over 10 years. This
president wants to unleash energy in a way – really have an energy
revolution like we`ve never seen. Invest in coal and shale as well not
just a silly, I`m for all about energy, as they all say, right, left and

He needs people around him who believe in that and can help execute on
that. And you`re not going to find better people than those who have been
at the top of finance, the top of our markets, frankly, and understand how
the markets work.

In the case of Rover Ross, somebody who has taken distressed companies and
turned them around. Each of these men, also, Chuck, are proven job
creators. And that`s a centerpiece of Donald Trump`s administration. It`s
actually a centerpiece of President-elect Donald Trump`s tenure in that
look what he did with Carrier in Indianapolis.

TODD: Let me ask you about this, Rudy Giuliani. The withdrawal today, it
does seem as if it – he was, sort of, out of the mix. Were you – was
everybody just being polite by keeping his name in the mix until Rudy
Giuliani had – was able to withdraw on his own timetable?

CONWAY: Well, it`s a mutual decision by President-elect Trump and Mayor
Giuliani. It should be respected by everyone. They will be close friends.
Mayor Giuliani will continue to be an informal advisor to the president-
elect. And Mayor Giuliani was incredibly loyal to Donald Trump, especially
in his waning months of the campaign.

And, actually, he gave great advice. I grew very close to him in the
course of the campaign. But in addition to that, he is a very lucrative,
very successful, very in demand private sector business. And it`s
difficult for people to walk away from that often enough.

So, I think until the two of them had agreed to this mutually, it really
was up to them to (INAUDIBLE.)

[17:25:03] TODD: I find that an interesting phrase you used, mutual


TODD: Right. That Donald Trump wasn`t – he wasn`t sold on the idea of
Rudy Giuliani as secretary of state.

CONWAY: Oh, no, I mean that the president – no, I meant that, as the
President-elect Trump accepted Mayor Giuliani`s decision to withdraw his

TODD: Yes.

CONWAY: And, obviously, the president-elect is considering a number of
people for that post that the actual scope has widened of late. You just
mentioned Rex Tillerson, the head of Exxon. A very intriguing pick to many
people. He`s already active in Russian, China, Yemen, and the developing
world across our globe. He has the kind of business experience that Donald
Trump values.

TODD: Right.

CONWAY: That`s your golden question.

TODD: What is the – what is the – what are among the criterias for state
because let me just take – let`s take Rex Tillerson and Mitt Romney. When
it comes to Putin, they totally have different takes on Putin. So,
obviously, you`re sending two different messages, depending on who you
pick. Is the Putin – is the candidate`s position on Putin part of the

CONWAY: Well, the candidates being Tillerson and Romney?

TODD: Yes.

CONWAY: Well, I believe, Chuck, that everybody should recognize it is
President-elect Trump`s position on Putin that will dominate the secretary
of state role at foggy bottom and across the globe.

TODD: So, this is an implementer. Everyone needs to remember that this is
an implementer.

CONWAY: Well, of course, he`ll take the counsel of those around him and he
always does. We always feel welcome. He`s a master listener and learner,
Donald Trump. But he`s also a master communicator in connecting with

And he is sending a message in tone and content to the world through the
secretary of state pick as to how or whom he believes will help implement
his vision, really what will become the Trump doctrine.

And he has been very clear about how he views Vladimir Putin, the
possibilities of coming together, say, to, perhaps, double down and try to
defeat, once and for all, radicals on the terrorism and try to get – to
get the ISIS to actually be the J.V. team that is no longer announcing it
was once said to be by President Obama.

And yet, we know that Vladimir Putin is – also does things that Donald
Trump doesn`t always agree with. I mean, that is going to come with the
territory. He talked to over 50 heads of states since he became the
president-elect. He and Vice President-elect Pence have.

And – but he`s receiving calls. He`s discussing issues with world
leaders, knowing that we still have another president and commander in
chief for the next six weeks or so.

But, at the same time, it doesn`t mean that he agrees with everything or
most things that these leaders are doing or saying.

TODD: You may know bones about Mitt Romney and his position. Is Mitt
Romney still a candidate?

CONWAY: He is. And I also may know bones about the fact that I will
support, completely and whole heartedly, whoever President-elect Trump
picks to serve in his cabinet, including secretary of state. He has my
complete loyalty.

All I was trying to do was give some voice, first privately and then, with
permission, publicly, to what I saw as just a breathtaking onslaught of
resistance to the idea.

And that came in a week when President-elect Trump told “The New York
Times” on the record, Chuck, that he was rethinking water boarding. That
he had conferred with his now defense department nominee, General Mattis,
that he would take a look at the Paris accords on climate change.

And that he wasn`t much interested in having it as a priority right now,
prosecuting Hillary Clinton. He`s focused on immigration. Health care is
what he said in that on-the-record briefing.

It doesn`t mean that it won`t happen. It doesn`t mean that some other
people are in charge of it. But in the week when he said those things, the
biggest news story for the grass roots was the prospect of secretary of
state, Mitt Romney.

TODD: You were trying to make sure he didn`t – he didn`t miss that.

CONWAY: Well, no, he didn`t miss it because it was said to him privately.
But also, what I think ultimately doesn`t matter. What Donald Trump, as
the president-elect and president of the United States, does is all that

But I appreciate the fact that he takes the counsel and the advice of many
different senior advisers. And, ultimately, we already – we always know
who`s in command and control of the decision. He is a master decision
maker. He is a brilliant – he`s a brilliant accomplished businessman
whose instincts and who`s role intelligence are really incredible.

TODD: I want to ask you about General Flynn and what`s happened in the
countries that surrounds his son. McCaffrey, the former general, NBC News
Military Analyst. He had some tough words for General Flynn to us earlier
this week. I want to play them for you and get you to react.


GEN. BARRY MCCAFFREY, U.S. ARMY (RET): You know, I was very strong in my
endorsement of him when he was first announced in the NSC position. I said
he was correctly probably the best intelligence officer of his generation.

But I must admit, I`m now am extremely uneasy about some of these tweets
which don`t sound so much as if they are political skullduggery, but
instead border on being demented. I think it needs closer scrutiny.


TODD: Those are tough words from somebody who`s not known as a partisan.

CONWAY: Very tough words.

And the first part which General McCaffrey said hasn`t changed. And that`s
that General Michael Flynn has served his country for 30 years including
five years in combat, many tours of duty, missed his older son`s wedding
and made it just in the nick of time for his second son`s wedding.

These are his sacrifices that people like General Flynn make. And he said
very clear what his top priorities are. He talked about security and peace.
He talked about government reform. And he will – of course he is another
one who will implement what President Donald Trump`s vision for the
national security post is.

But I think what General McCaffrey said about this man`s decades of service
should not be undercut by recent events. I think that would be very

TODD: Why shouldn`t people have some questions about.

CONWAY: I didn`t say they shouldn`t.

TODD: . General Flynn`s judgment that he didn`t, you know, maybe it`s love
for his son that made him not have sort of overlooked or have not used
correct judgment here. Whatever it is, there`s clearly a question he used
wrong judgment here.

CONWAY: They apologized. His son has been removed from the transition team.
The fact is that I think everybody can relate to love for one`s son. But at
the same time we really need to look at his full record. What qualifies him
to be national security adviser and you find a very long list of items in
response to that question.

TODD: If he doesn`t have the respect of the military community though, can
he effectively do that?

CONWAY: You are presuming he doesn`t. He does.

TODD: There is a lot of questions. It is bubbling. It is not, you`re right,
not a lot of people going on the record. General McCaffrey is one of the
few. Would that be a concern to president-elect Trump?

CONWAY: I believe it is not a fact. And I think that people will come on TV
if they have something to say that is negative in that regard, but the
question is does he have the trust of the president-elect Donald Trump? The
question is does he have the trust and the backing of the military
community who are looking at it through a non-jaundiced eye? And so far,
the answer is yes.

TODD: Alright. There`s a lot more to get to, but I don`t have that time.


TODD: We will have you here again.

CONWAY: Thank you.

TODD: Kellyanne Conway, thank you so much, nice to see you. Still ahead,
fake news equals big business in one small European town. NBC News went on
the ground in Macedonia to find out where supposed fake news starts. We got
some interesting details on that up ahead.

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